Co-founder of Converge Dental · Dental Hygienist and Practice Success Consultant
University of Missouri Kansas City School of Dentistry · Converge Dental
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Ella Mullokandova, RDH, BSDH is a Co-founder of Converge Dental and a practicing dental hygienist. She graduated with a Bachelor of Science in Dental Hygiene from the University of Missouri, Kansas City in 2004 and has extensive experience in implant, cosmetic, general, oral surgery, and periodontal dentistry. She enjoys learning and understanding business operations of all aspects of a dental practice and emphasizes the importance of shared leadership for practice success. She finds great satisfaction in guiding and inspiring teams to transform their practices into happy, productive, stress free, profitable, and constantly growing environment with an emphasis on providing exceptional customer experiences. Ella routinely attends classes and seminars to stay up to date with latest advancements and technology. She is excited to see how technology is transforming dentistry today. On a more personal note, she is fluent in Russian and understand several other languages. In her free time, she enjoys spending time with her husband and three kids: hiking, dancing, baking, and simply acting silly. She also loves to travel and see the world! You can contact her at Ella@convergedental.com
Are your patients leaving your office thinking "wow, I'm so happy I found this dentist," or are they simply receiving clinical care without feeling truly valued? Even exceptional dental work can fall short if the patient experience lacks the personal touch that creates lasting loyalty.
Join us as we welcome Ella Mullokandova, RDH, BSDH, co-founder of Converge Dental and a practicing dental hygienist with over 16 years of experience in implant, cosmetic, general, oral surgery, and periodontal dentistry. Ella graduated with a Bachelor of Science in Dental Hygiene from the University of Missouri, Kansas City in 2004 and has dedicated her career to understanding business operations across all aspects of dental practice. She emphasizes the importance of shared leadership for practice success and specializes in guiding teams to transform their practices into happy, productive, stress-free, profitable, and constantly growing environments with exceptional customer experiences.
In this comprehensive discussion, Ella reveals how modern business models have evolved to put customers first and why the dental field must follow suit to distinguish marginally successful practices from those that dominate their competition. She introduces the patient lifecycle model that her company uses to optimize every touchpoint of the patient experience, creating systematic approaches that turn patients into loyal brand ambassadors for your practice.
Episode Highlights:
The five-element patient lifecycle framework consists of intake, assess, educate, treat, and retention phases, with each touchpoint representing an opportunity to measure and improve the patient experience. Every team member has specific responsibilities within this cycle, from the front office receptionist's role in initial patient interactions to clinical handoffs that create opportunities for feedback and referral requests.
Successful hiring focuses on three key qualities: hunger to learn, trainability, and strong people skills, rather than existing dental experience. Smart practice owners either find individuals with exceptional customer service backgrounds and train them on dental procedures, or identify team members who embody the practice's core values and demonstrate willingness to develop their interpersonal abilities.
Patient feedback collection occurs naturally during clinical handoffs when front office personnel ask "How was your experience with us today?" and "What can we improve on?" This same interaction provides the perfect opportunity to request referrals by stating "We love patients like yourself and would love to see your family members or friends because we love patients like you in our practice."
Customer loyalty delivers measurable economic benefits including decreased advertising expenses, organic practice growth through word-of-mouth referrals, and patient retention that prevents loss to competitor promotions. Loyal patients become multipliers who actively promote the practice without external incentives, creating sustainable growth patterns that reduce dependence on traditional marketing strategies.
Confident team leaders eliminate hesitation in promoting necessary dentistry and requesting patient referrals because they understand their role in delivering exceptional experiences. This confidence stems from systematic training in customer experience delivery, clear understanding of each team member's responsibilities within the patient lifecycle, and consistent implementation of best practices across all patient touchpoints.
Perfect for: Practice owners seeking organic growth strategies, dental team members looking to enhance patient relationships, and practices wanting to reduce dependence on insurance networks through increased patient loyalty.
Transform your practice from marginally successful to competition-dominating by mastering the patient experience fundamentals that create lifelong brand ambassadors.
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You're listening to the Phil Klein Dental Podcast.
Every day as a dentist, hygienist, or an assistant, you go to the office and do the best you can to
provide top-notch patient care. But even though you may be providing the best clinical care, does
the patient feel special? And are they likely to leave the office thinking, wow, I am so happy I
found this dentist? In this episode, we'll be talking about the customer experience and how your
practice can deliver one in a world-class manner. that will be instrumental in growing your
practice. To tell us more about it is our guest today, Ella Mullakandova. Ella has over 16 years of
experience as a dental hygienist and is what she calls a restorative dental partner.
She is the co-founder of Converge Dental, a company that helps dental practices succeed and grow,
emphasizing the importance of an organized, systematic approach to improve patient care and
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Ella, thanks for joining us on the show. Thank you so much for having me. This is a pleasure. Yeah,
we're really happy to have you. So to begin, why is the patient experience so important and what
can we expect to gain by focusing on it? So I wanted to introduce and say that,
introduce to the doctors the idea that business models today have evolved to put customers first in
a lot more places than before. Something that definitely needs to be happening in a dental field.
customers and the experience and optimizing every experience that patients and customers have
within their business model. Think about going online and shopping for something and then having
the ability to pick it up at a store. Or fast food restaurants that never delivered before are now
catering to customers and delivering to them as well. focusing on the customers and the experience
that we provide in the dental office is something that will distinguish the dental practices from
being just marginally successful versus dominating the competition.
Yeah, that's interesting that you say that because there was a KOL who I interviewed on a podcast a
while back. And when he had an employee that left, he would go to Nordstrom's. He went into some
department and he evaluated the people that were working there and he found... the person who gave
the best customer service and said, hey, if you're looking to get into the dental space, you have
the skill set for customer service that we're looking for. And I could train you on the dental
stuff, but the customer service qualities that you have, the attributes you have are second to
none. Let me ask you another question. What tools and techniques do you use to help practices craft
a world-class patient experience? In Converge Dental, We provide a model practice.
A model practice is centered around the patient life cycle. That is the process of the whole
experience of the patient comes through your practice from the initial point to becoming a
lifelong. And we view every point of the customer interaction as an opportunity to measure and
improve the experience. So we have identified key touch points and how to optimize the patient
experience through implementing best practices, measurements, and tools. And in our trainings with
practices, every team member understands how and who is involved in a particular patient life
cycle. touch point and what success looks like in those areas of touch points.
So what are the most critical elements in the patient experience and where should the office focus
first? Sure. So the patient life cycle, as I mentioned before, it's how the patient goes through
the practice. That consists of five elements. The first one is intake,
right? When the patient has the initial interaction coming into the practice, then you assess
process as well to assess is when you look at the patient as a whole and identify what are their
needs, desires, their values, and what their dental needs are as well.
Then you go into educate and treat and retention. So those five areas are the areas that we help
optimize, making sure that the customer experience is delivered consistently,
creating the loyal brand ambassadors for the practice. You start definitely.
I always tell our dentists and our teams, everybody is involved in creating that experience.
Every team member has a responsibility. For example, let's take the initial.
interest into the practice, the front office receptionist has a major role in the decision-making
of that patient who is calling to make an appointment or to go ahead and call somebody else,
right? That etiquette that the front office receptionist uses, the smile, the posture,
the tone of voice that she's using. Those are the elements that we streamline as this patient life
cycle to make sure that every aspect is optimized in those five areas of a patient life cycle.
So it seems to me as a practice owner, you kind of have to know all this before you hire someone,
for instance, for the front office, because it's a lot harder to take someone in a front office
position that may not have the personality to fulfill some of the things you're talking about now
and try to train them to do that. Versus, like I mentioned earlier, this doctor went to Nordstrom
and he just found the most incredible customer service focused person there was and said, hey, you
know, I'd love to get you into the dental space. They really need to take training from a company
like yours, Converge Dental or wherever they want to get their training prior to hiring. That's
right. We encourage doctors that we work with with two things. Number one.
You have a vision for your practice, and that vision does not need to wait to come into fruition
when the right people are in there, when the right team is together, because that's going to take
forever. Implementing that vision and creating the foundation for the practice,
creating the right culture, creating the systems and processes, and putting all of that in place,
then introducing the right team member or a team member that they're either are the right person
with the right personality. They can learn the skill, but they have the people skills. That's the
key. Or they bring in a person that engulfs the core values of the practice and the vision and then
is willing to learn that and self-improve, I guess, to... Take the training to be trainable and
then help the doctor as a restorative dental partner to create the vision that is ultimately there.
It is very important to when you're hiring individuals or. team members, it's important to make
sure that they are hungry. They're hungry to learn, and they're open to be trained,
and they are smart. They have the people skills. And sometimes,
again, as you said, they might not have the personality, but are they willing to learn it? So those
are the three qualities to look for in a person when you are hiring. Now, through your experience
as an educator and through your experience running your company, Converge Dental, which sounds like
a phenomenal operation to teach dental professionals this very important part of their practice.
Do you feel that dentists are deficient in their customer experience and their image when a patient
first interacts with that office? Are a lot of the dentists just not focusing on that and they're
very focused on the clinical work they deliver? And is this hurting them? to the point where their
practice may not be growing as it should? Yes, that's a great question because it all depends on
the focus of the doctor. The doctor, unfortunately, unfortunately, they wear so many hats.
There is so much responsibility on their hands that sometimes...
that are very important are overlooked. Customer experience is the main one. Sometimes they look
just for the numbers. Are they reaching the numbers? Are they making sure that they're making their
goals for the year, for the month, or on a daily basis? But what goes beyond that they're not
paying attention to is, number one, customer experience. But in order to get that customer
experience, It's important to train the team, provide the training that the team requires to
deliver that exceptional customer experience. You have a lot of times you have people that are
willing, but they just don't know how to do it. And inconsistencies, because there's no systems and
processes in place in the practice, that's when the delivery of customer experience is not there.
Are they missing out? Yes. As I said in the introduction, if you want to be a customer,
that is just marginally successful then you just continue what you do but if you want to dominate
the competition and see your practice grow and be profitable organically start focusing start
either partnering with dental coaching or consulting companies that will help you and super focus
you on this idea of let's get the foundation down let's make sure that the team is trained and have
the skills and become leaders within their own areas of expertise to deliver,
number one, that exceptional customer experience, number two, to gain that vision or go towards the
vision for the practice. Hence, that's how the practice grows organically because now you have
patients that are loyal. Now you have patients that are out there talking about you and your
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Yeah, that's totally true. Everything you're saying makes total sense. And I do think the customer
experience is the foundation for the practice to grow. And it also gives the practice owner
independence from the encumbrances of insurance companies at times or large corporations that are
buying up offices and you end up working for them. When you have, like you said, a very loyal
following, you have the ability to have more freedom in the direction you want to go with your
practice because these patients will stay with you. And if their insurance doesn't cover it,
they'll hopefully find the resources to pay for it without going to another dentist that does have
the insurance that aligns with their insurance. So that's like the stickiness and the loyalty that
is just invaluable to the future of a dental practice. And that's really amazing work that you do
at Converge Dental. We'll talk more about that on a future podcast, but I want to ask you one more
question before we wrap it up. When it comes to feedback from patients, so let's say you're
implementing a customer service approach, what suggestions do you have to gather feedback from
patients on their experiences and willingness to recommend the practice to others? I'm going to
answer that question, and then I'm going to add on one more thing before we finish with the podcast
today that's going to help our dentists thrive in their practices. Number one, when you have
confident leaders within your team, they do not feel any hesitation promoting dentistry,
of course, with the needs of the patient, but they also do not hesitate asking patients for
referrals. They don't hesitate asking patients how their experience was. Or how can we improve on
the experience that we provide to the patients? So, for example, when the clinical team brings the
patient up front to the receptionist, that handoff, that's a perfect opportunity for the
receptionist or the front office personnel to ask the patient. How was your experience with us
today? What can we improve on? That's a perfect time to ask. And you'll most likely get the
responses right there and then. And that's also an opportunity that we teach our dentists and our
teams that we work with. Ask the patient for referrals. And how do you do that?
A lot of front office receptionists or people are afraid to ask. There should be no fear in asking
because you can simply say, We love patients like yourself.
We would love for us to see your family members or your friends or whoever because we love patients
like you in our practice. That's a compliment. And then you're asking them for something as well.
Most likely they will say, sure, no problem. And, you know, one day they will refer somebody.
Personally, I've experienced that in my practice when I work with patients. When you do that
handoff and the front office receptionist is able to ask those questions, we had so many new
patients come to the practice as a referral. Our practice grew organically. We did not really
advertise much, which takes me to the next comment I wanted to make. There is an economic purpose
of customer loyalty. Right. This is where you have decreased advertising expenses.
You have the repeat customers are multipliers. They are the ones that go out there and talk about
your practice and refer other people to you. They are not incentivized by better opportunities out
there. You know, when somebody gives like a dollar off from a cleaning, they're not going to go
over there. They are loyal to your practice. Those are the key things to think about when you're.
implementing or thinking of how do I design my processes with a customer's perspective in mind.
Yeah. And all these things you point out are great for customer retention as well.
Not only referrals, but when you work hard on a patient, like you said, you don't want them to be
teased into another practice by some special offer. And that brings me back to the first point as
we started the conversation is it's the team, the trained and skilled team that has been cultivated
to have that confidence. That's what's going to create that exceptional customer experience on a
consistent basis. What's the best way to reach Converge Dental? Just Google Converge Dental,
two words. Yes, you can go to convergedental.com. That's our website. And you can ask for a free
discovery session with us. You can go or contact me at Ella at convergedental.com.
Those are best ways. Or social media, Converged Dental. Check out our reels and fun things out
there and what we offer. Thank you so much, Ella, for being on the show. And I know we have a few
more podcasts, so we look forward to doing them as well. Thank you. Sounds great. Thank you so
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