Dr. Hakim has balanced private practice and dental education for over 21 years in the San Francisco Bay Area. He has a true passion for restorative dentistry ranging from complex rehabilitation to optimal and conservative single tooth restoration. He is Vice Chair of the Department of Restorative Dentistry at University of the Pacific and is course director for "Occlusion, TMJ & Advanced Restorative Concepts". He is also a director in the "Esthetic and Complex Care Clinic" at Pacific.
Dr. Hakim has lectured nationally in many venues including seminars, continuums and hands-on-workshops on topics ranging from technology, esthetic dentistry, occlusion, smile design, CAD/CAM, photography, and adhesive and composite dentistry. Dr. Hakim has several publications and has authored two chapters in the 2010 text, "Esthetic Dentistry in Clinical Practice" from Blackwell Publishing.
Dr. Hakim earned his DDS in 1991 from Pacific and later went on to complete an MBA from his alma mater. He is a member of OKU dental honor society and past president of the Delta Delta Chapter. He is also a fellow and graduate of the ADEA Leadership Institute class of 2007. In his free time, he enjoys spending time with his wife Mana and two kids Ash and Tara, traveling, golf, fishing and competitive team sports.
Dental podcast: Welcome to DentalTalk. I'm Dr. Phil Klein. Today we'll touch on trends, advancements and developments in the area of composite resins. The conversation will range from practitioner preferences through the latest and greatest in material science advancements. Our guest is Dr. Foroud Hakim, who holds a full time position in the Dept. of Preventive and Restorative Dentistry at University of the Pacific. He has maintained a private practice for over 30 years where his deep ties with the dental industry allow for beta testing and consulting for new product evaluation and development.
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You're listening to The Dr. Phil Klein Dental Podcast from Viva Learning.com.
Welcome to the show. I'm Dr. Phil Klein. Today we'll touch on trends, advancements,
and developments in the area of composite resins. The conversation will range from practitioner
preferences through the latest and greatest in material science advancements. Our guest is Dr.
Foroud Hakim, who holds a full-time position in the Department of Preventive and Restorative
Dentistry at University of the Pacific. He has maintained a private practice for over 30 years,
where his deep ties with the dental industry allow for beta testing and consulting for new product
evaluation and development. Dr. Hakim, it's a pleasure to have you on Dental Talk. Awesome, Phil.
It's always great to talk to you. Before we get started, I would like to let our audience know that
Dr. Hakim presented an excellent webinar on Viva Learning. elevate your game great materials and
techniques equal results and profitability so if you missed that live event please watch the on
-demand version on viva learning.com just type in hakim h-a-k-i-m in the search field at viva
learning.com and you'll find his webinar really worth watching i highly recommend it so to begin
what have you observed dr hakim with regards to composite resin trends over the last 30-plus years
of your clinical practice? And if you would, include the doctor's perspective, the patient's
perspective, and even the manufacturer's, for that matter. Great question. I'll start with the
simplest one, which is the patient's perspective. Quite simply, they fully embraced the notion of
being able to get tooth-colored fillings. In fact, they expect it. Aesthetic outcomes are now an
expectation, whether they're shopping for pure cosmetic dentistry. or need-based health dentistry,
there's the unsaid expectation that we want our teeth to look good. And so composites have been an
answer to their prayers in that sense. That's a slam dunk. From the doctor's perspective, it really
kind of determined by the relative decade of training, which group of doctors you're talking about.
I would say roughly anybody that's graduated in the 2000s and forward, they really went through
training in an era where they were fully immersed into the composite age, kind of the white. age of
dentistry and so they grew up doing this stuff they're familiar with it they're conversant with it
they understand how important it is to keep up with trends when you go back a decade or two and go
back to the uh those of us that graduated in the silver age of dentistry or even before me the
golden age of dentistry it was a little bit more challenging you know first us docs had to uh first
learn to accept composites overcome certain biases about their longevity and performance get to
where we understood the material science better and then eventually learn how to put it in play in
our practices but ultimately you know the goal was always to be able to deliver aesthetic
restorations that don't just look good but are durable and lasting finally i would say from the
manufacturer's perspective that's probably the most complex of the three these folks have put
decades of commitment towards you know funding towards r d and material science improvements trying
to enhance materials composites to behave better handle better perform better or more aesthetic
more durable so on and so forth and meanwhile they've had to figure out how to move the needle with
regards to sales and marketing and education so one of the ways they've done this a big focus over
the last decade for manufacturers has been by this value proposition centered around trying to
provide materials that give you a notion of improved speed delivery efficiency and practice
inventory reduction you know simplifications with shade selection for example and reducing the
number of skews you have to keep on the shelf that might you know expire introducing bulk fills and
things that help the operator deliver a dentistry better and hopefully faster modulating viscosity
so we can fill smaller cavities because there's a big emphasis on minimally invasive dentistry and
some of those principles of tooth preservation yeah i remember those days where inventory was just
crazy they had these systems that had 30 shades and they came in these tremendous boxes it had
everything in the book in that box that was just so unwieldy right i mean it was it wasn't really
practical except for a small number of dentists that specialized in doing that kind of direct
composite cosmetic dentistry right exactly i was kind of for the one percenters what is it guys
like you went back to the manufacturers and said this is overkill you know 95 of the dentists are
using 10 of what's in this kit Correct. The leading, the most frequently ordered shade is A2.
Many manufacturers know. They listen. Whether we say it or they see what's selling, they realize
it's ultimately to our best benefit. They know they have to compete for market share, so they
figure out what the trends are. They work developing better products, and ultimately us and our
patients are the winners because new products come out. Right. I remember the days, though, where
KOLs were showing their cases in CE presentations, and they were... you know direct restorative
techniques using all these different shades um and i guess you know that's what they were doing and
manufacturers follow that lead but then the large mass audience of dentists just said we can't do
this practically and make a living right exactly exactly it was it was the sexy dentistry that sold
right but it wasn't the daily dentistry that actually occurred but now you can do daily dentistry
in a very aesthetic way with the materials you're talking about Definitely, definitely. And so as
the manufacturers of work to kind of improve some of these things, you know, if you're asking what
they've done and how they've developed it, I would say probably every seismic shift with technology
and composites comes down to one primary most important thing. And that's been that ongoing
modification with regards to the filler, the filler technology. As we increase the glass, we're
able to reduce the resin and how we modify that glass. really affects the final outcome.
So we've evolved from these early kind of very site-specific micro-fills and macro-fills back in
my generation when I first started doing it, where they were for the front of the mouth and the
back of the mouth, and they each had their weak links, but that's what we needed to do, multiple
products to get through the day. And then they modified it a little bit, and we started to go to
the hybrid filler composites, and eventually the micro-hybrids came along. Really, the last 10
-plus years, manufacturers have fully kind of... develop the nano hybrid, and I'm doing air quotes,
generation of composites. And essentially what they're doing is they're modulating their filler
particle size using such small size particles in the magnitude of 20 times smaller than a red blood
cell. And so while these things are solids, they're able to get them to behave like liquids, which
really, really gives them a huge advantage in the sense that they can use that as a backbone of
these contemporary materials. lead to better optics, better handling, better aesthetics, mitigate
shrinkage, which was always an issue with composites, better fracture toughness, wear performance,
polish, handling feel, the list goes on and on. Through this filler modulation,
they've been able to deliver composites with varying viscosities, where now we have multiple pages
and catalogs just dedicated to flowable composites only. On top of that, there's a trend where
doctors like to modify the viscosity of their body composites by warming them. And that's been a
big adjunct for us as well in practice. So let me ask you this. In the era of nanotechnology,
where we've really made a big leap with the filler particles, which you just explained, do all the
new composites have these characteristics? And if so, how does a practitioner know which material
to choose? You know, that's a great question. I'll start with saying how folks choose their
composites. Basically, it comes down to three things. Probably the most common is handling. doctors
want to be able to grab something that works well in their hands and they do it and sometimes
that'll lead to a good choice and sometimes it'll lead to a good choice that might be a little
antiquated after handling then it comes down to aesthetics how nice does the final product look And
finally, how easily can I polish it? Is it a lot of steps or does it get to a good level faster
quickly? So that being said, there are composites from a decade ago,
two decades ago, that are flagship composites, big names by big manufacturers. People get
accustomed to using them. And the assumption is that they are the latest and the greatest. And they
may have been the best that the market had to offer, but they may be a micro hybrid.
be that they're creatures that have and that's what they're ordering so i think it's really
important to stay ahead of this and a lot of the composites that are kind of worth their way now
have nano fillers in there and of course there's proprietary variances between the different
companies but a lot of them have nano fillers and so i would urge people to look at their
composites and see what generation it's from uh you might be missing out if not if you're not using
the right thing yeah so in your opinion what's the biggest like deal breaker or non-negotiable
when it comes to choosing a composite Exactly what we said. It's got to be contemporary, meaning
it's got to have nanohybrid technology in it. The science just vets that out. So if you have legacy
products, you are using the best of what was rather than the best of what is.
After that, the next deal breaker, I have to have viscosity modulation, meaning when I do
composite, and for example, one of the brands that I use quite a bit is Grandioso from Voco.
Besides their body composites, they actually offer flowables in three viscosities. They have a
light flow, their average flow, and their heavy flow material. And there's a dramatic difference
between how these flowables move, which means that they can get to tight nooks and crannies and
spaces where I've done very small preparations, yet they can be a heavier filled flowable that can
hold its weight under some occlusal load where there's still minimally invasive preps on top of the
tooth. or maybe even in an invisalign aligner when i want to pre-fill those attachment templates
put it off to the side and not have it run out until i marry it to the tooth all the way down to
their true body composite they're on their 10th year anniversary now and i've had this composite in
play in my practice for quite a while it's amazing the results we get and how good these composites
look because of that filler technology yeah i've talked to a lot of kols on podcasts and they seem
to really like local products across the board Grandioso keeps coming up. And they have another
product. Is it Viscalor that is in a warming system? And that seems to be a game changer.
Correct. So they've got a new developed product, Viscalor and Viscalor Bulk,
which is a composite made to be warmed. And they have a proprietary gun,
which uses near infrared technology to warm it. A lot of folks like that composite. But the nice
thing is all of their contemporary... whether it's Grandioso, Viscalore, Admira Fusion,
they're all built on nanoparticle size. So you can choose the one that you want. And even if you're
not using the Viscalore with the near-infrared gun, they have a caps warmer. So you could put any
of their composites in these composite warmers, modulate the behavior of it and the viscosity of
it, and kind of get the best of both worlds. Have your cake and eat it too. So in closing for this
podcast, and the information's been great, Dr. Hakeem, as usual, what would you... Say to a dentist
who's either now starting their own practice or they're recently graduated dental school or they're
using, as you mentioned, antiquated composites that may not be the most contemporary.
You know, obviously the R&D doesn't lend into those products as the newer ones do.
To make that decision to buy a new system for an office is a big decision, right?
Because you have some training with your staff, inventory. And you have the confidence of your
older products because they basically served you well over the years. And now you want to change to
a new or more contemporary composite. Now you use Voco. How would someone make that decision where
they make that switch? Yeah, I would say don't buy the flavor of the month. Get well educated on
it. Get reps in for training. Go to CE courses with KOLs.
You know, the Viva platform is great for that, for example. and really shop and make sure
especially if you're going into a practice you may be inheriting a practice that has some legacy
products in there and they've just been habitually on reorder and they've worked well for a number
of years but build your platform on one that's simple where you don't have to store 37 shades you
can get by with your most aesthetically demanding cases with maybe eight or nine shades and do a
lot of your traditional post your work with the same two or three that also offers the appropriate
viscosity flowables a couple of options in there so that the inventory is simple for your staff but
it's not limiting for when you have an aesthetic need but it's simplified and it's futuristic and
thinking in the sense that it's not something that you're going to have to change out of in two
years that'll be something that will work well for you for the next half a decade to a decade the
reality is these days though you have to be willing to adapt and change more frequently because the
changes come just technology drives changes faster these days and so you got to stay on top of it
yeah absolutely great advice to our audience and really appreciate your input Dr. Hakim and we
appreciate all the uh contributions you've made on the ce platform that we distribute across the
world Viva Learning you're covering both the podcasts and the webinar side and we really appreciate
your participation over the years keep it coming thank you so much thank you Phil it's always great
talking to you