Joshua Austin, DDS maintains a full time restorative dentistry private practice in San Antonio, Texas. He is an editorial director and columnist for Dental Economics focusing on dental products and technology. Dr. Austin lectures around the country to study clubs and dental meetings about these topics along with online reputation management and social media. Dr. Austin is a graduate of the University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio Dental School and spent five years post graduation as faculty in the Department of Restorative Dentistry. His approach to his "Pearls for your Practice" column is a fresh approach in today's commercial driven dental journalism. When you read a "Pearl," rest assured that you are getting an honest evaluation of a product, which was used by Dr. Austin in clinical practice on a patient.
Many of us are using bulk fill composite and universal adhesives for our direct restorative procedures. And our goal, as in any clinical procedure, is to create the best restorations in the most efficient way. And chairside efficiency not only improves the patient experience but also boosts productivity and profitability. Today we'll be discussing efficient esthetics using direct composites. Our guest is Dr. Joshua Austin, who maintains a full time restorative dentistry practice in San Antonio, Texas. He is an editorial director and monthly columnist for Dental Economics magazine focusing on dental products and technology. Dr. Austin also lectures around the country on topics such as digital marketing and mental health.
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You're listening to the Phil Klein Dental Podcast
Thanks for joining us. I'm Dr. Phil Klein. Many of us are using bulk fill composite and universal
adhesives for our direct restorative procedures. And our goal, as in any clinical procedure,
is to create the best restorations in the most efficient way. And chair-side efficiency not only
improves the patient experience, but also boosts productivity. and profitability. Today,
we'll be discussing efficient aesthetics using direct composites. Our guest is Dr. Joshua Austin,
who maintains a full-time restorative dentistry practice in San Antonio, Texas, not far from our
headquarters in Austin. He is an editorial director and monthly columnist for Dental Economics
Magazine, focusing on dental products and technology. Dr. Austin also lectures around the country
on topics such as digital marketing and mental health. Before we get started, I would like to
mention that Dr. Austin's webinar titled Faster, Better, More Profitable Bulk Fill Composite Is The
Way is now available as an on-demand webinar on VivaLearning.com. Simply type in the search field
Austin, A-U-S-T-I-N, and you'll see it. If you're doing a lot of direct restorative using
composite resin, I certainly recommend this webinar. Dr. Austin, it's a pleasure to have you on the
show. Good to see you again, Dr. Klein. So we're certainly talking about a topic that's very
important right now because so many dentists are using composites for their direct restorative
procedures, but there is an opinion difference among dentists about whether traditional incremental
fill placement technique is the right way to go or bulk fill. So what's your feeling about that?
Posterior composite really is the bane of my existence. You know, it's by far the procedure I do
the most in my practice. There's a study done by the ADA Health Policy Institute that shows that
three out of every four restorations done in this country are direct restorations. And of those 90
something percent are. resin composite. So we know it's the most common procedure in the office,
but it's also the least profitable procedure I do. It gives me the most headaches. It's the most
post-operative issues that I have are with direct composites, specifically in the posterior. When
we look at incremental fill composites is that every time we place an increment, there's a risk of
something going bad. And when I was taught in dental school, I was taught to do two millimeter
increments. No increment of composite touched more than two walls of a tooth. And that's really,
really easy to do on a typodon, but on a real tooth, on a patient that has cheeks and gums and
tongue and blood and gingival cavicular fluid. And that gets way harder. And so every time we place
an increment, we have a risk of getting contamination or a void. And bulk fill helps reduce that,
right? The less increments I can place, the better for me as a clinician. And the better for the
patient because we have less of a risk of contamination or a void. And these composites are built
to be placed in four millimeter increments, double what we're used to having. So it just makes a
ton of sense to me to use these in those areas in the posterior. There really is the most common
thing we do in an effort to minimize post-operative issues that we would run into that eat up our
time and our profitability. So what has changed to make bulk fill so acceptable or actually the
preferred method of choice? when it comes to restoring, especially these larger cavity preps in
posterior teeth? Yeah, there's kind of three things that have changed in the composites since the
days of like the composites that I trained under when I was in dental school in the early 2000s
would have been like heliomolar or Z100, kind of those classic legacy composites that have been
around for 25 years now. Number one is the monomer systems have all changed.
All these monomer systems are totally different than the monomer systems that were present. in
those early composites that we did posteriorly and those monomer systems have reduced the amount of
polymerization shrinkage, which is something we used to worry about a lot. You know, we looked at
higher polymerization shrinkages. Now we're well under 2% on most products that are popular that
are used today that are considered bulk fill. Second thing that's been done is our photo initiator
system has become more aggressive. And so the average photo initiator system, the classical one we
all think of, CQ, Camperquinone, is something that's still being used quite frequently, but has
also had the intensity ratcheted up a bit to make these resin composites cure more aggressively
because of the photo initiator system. Ivoclar incidentally uses... One of the only companies that
uses a proprietary photo initiator system called Ivo Serene. So they're able to leverage that
technology with some of their newer products. And then finally, they make these materials a little
bit more translucent. Obviously, if you had a disc of composite, a four millimeter disc of A1 and a
four millimeter disc of D4, which one of those is going to let more light do it? obviously the A1,
right? And so we want a more translucent material that will allow that light to transmit all the
way down to the floor of that four millimeter box. So that's really the ways that we have done it.
And that tends to be what we see on the market today is our ability to play with that increment
depth by increasing the translucence and by increasing the activity of the photo initiator and
changing the monomer system to something. that causes a little less polymerization shrinkage than
the traditional monomers that we used for many years. So at this point in time, the clinician
should be pretty confident that they can get really good adaptation to the cavity prep with bulk
fills today. They could use four millimeter increments confidently and get good polymerization,
which is related to low postoperative sensitivity. So with this bulk fill technique,
which is becoming more and more popular now, and using the right materials, What kind of advantages
is the dental practice seeing from the standpoint of the patient, the clinician and profitability?
Absolutely. I mean, to be honest with you, for most of us, patients don't want to be in our office.
I don't care what we're doing. I don't care what kind of spa amenities we offer and the warm towels
and the massage chair and the paraffin wax and hand treatments and all that stuff. They don't want
to be there. They want to be in and out as quickly as possible. And so for us to be able to work
efficiently and quickly. I'm not talking about rushing through a procedure and being sloppy.
I'm just talking about working efficiently so as to minimize the amount of chair time that it
takes. That's the number one thing. And when we look at all the data... it's, you know,
we have a five-year randomized control trial out of Europe that shows that bulk fills have the
same amount of success rate as incremental composites do, whether we're looking at Rosado's data on
gap formation. There's lots of data that tells us that these perform equally well as incremental
fill composites. And if we can do so... faster and more efficiently, it's better for the patient.
And quite honestly, it's better for us. The only, you know, most of us who are on, like I'm on
Delta. So I get a certain amount for a Kuzil Composita number three, right? It's 120 bucks,
whatever it is. You know, they're not raising that rate. So if I want to stay as profitable as I
was last year, where costs were a little bit less just based on inflation in the economy.
The only option I have is to be more efficient in the hours I work. I can add hours. That's one
option. Or I can be more efficient in the time that I do have. And I'd rather be more efficient
than adding hours. Clinical dentistry is a beating. I don't want to do any more than eight hours a
day. Well, let me ask you this. What you're saying all makes sense. Using the material and the
technique that you've now adopted into your practice, your staff, your team, your assistants,
they all understand how you do direct restorative composite dentistry. What are you currently doing
to save you time? And how much are we talking about? Like how much chair side time are you actually
shaving off here? Yeah, so there's really two ways that you can shave time by switching to...
Number one is reducing the number of increments, right? Every increment we place takes a few
seconds to place the increment, you know, 30 seconds to a minute to shape it depending on which
increment it is and what the anatomy is and all that, give or take. And then our curing time,
obviously. So if we can cut our increments in half, we cut maybe a minute and a half or two minutes
on a procedure. The other way that we could reduce the time and our efficiency in our procedure is
to reduce the amount of time that we cure. the restoration right when i was in dental school we
used halogen lights do you remember those like lights that were like big boxes that sat on our
counters and they had big fans and big huge cords and all that right and with halogen lights we had
to cure for like 40 seconds and so then the advent of led curing lights came out now we could cure
less time right we've kind of always had this barrier of like that 10 to 20 seconds right that's
kind of where we've been floating around um you know since the led curing light came out Well,
now that's one thing that we can kind of modify as well. There are now different curing lights and
different systems that allow us to reduce the amount of curing time. So there was a meme that went
around for a long time where it was like what my mom thinks I do, what my patients think I do,
and what I really do. And like what my mom thinks I do is like Dr. House, you know, House MD,
the TV show. Yeah, sure. I love that show. I do. Yeah. And it was like what patients think I do is
like swiping their credit card or something like that. And what I really do, and it was just a
picture of a bored dentist holding a curing light. Right. And I just think about the amount of time
I've said in my life, just sitting and staring at the wall. as I'm holding a curing light on a
tooth. And so we can reduce the amount of curing time we have, then we can reduce the
intraoperative time and increase our efficiency. And so, you know, a couple of systems allow us to
do that. One of those is the blue face power cure. They have a three second curing mode. So if
you're using Adhese Universal. and you're using Tetric Power Fill and Tetric Power Flow restorative
materials and the Blue Face Power Cure Light, your curing time goes down to three seconds, three
seconds for the adhesive and then three seconds for your four millimeter increment. So that really
starts to cut some time off. And so now we're talking two, two and a half minutes, three minutes of
procedure or a restoration, you know, and that may not seem like that big a deal,
but if you cut three minutes off of every composite you do for an entire year, That's serious
stuff, right? I don't know if you've read the book Atomic Habits, right? Atomic Habits are like the
little changes that we make that make a big difference in our lives. That's one of those atomic
habits. So no doubt that's a huge time saver to reduce your curing time to three seconds from what
is typically 20 seconds and 10 seconds and so forth is huge over time. I agree. Now there is
something that our listeners should know that in order to get that three second cure, you need to
use the blue phase power cure light. with the composite materials that are part of the ivachlor
system, which is the tetric power fill and the tetric power flow. Exactly. Yeah. Which is not,
it's not a bad thing. It's just, it's something that you can't buy that curing light and take it on
any material that you currently use. And cure for three seconds. Right. But you probably could use
it. You can use the curing light though, right? You just can't get three seconds. Absolutely. Okay.
Yeah, just not in a three-second mode. Yeah, dentists love to think that they're Miles Davis and
can just start improvising, you know, with whatever, like mix and match with this and that. Right.
And the truth is, you know, that's fine. Like using an Imaclar light on. say uh you know 3m or
dense fly composite will work just fine just not in that three second mode and the reason that is
is because number one is there's a specific array of both violet and blue leds inside the curing
light that are specifically made for the photo initiator system that is in the adhese and then in
that tetrick power fill and tetrick power floor restoratives And in addition to that, there's a
special monomer system inside those adhesives and that restorative material that is specifically
made to be cured at three seconds at this very specific wavelength. So it's a system that's made to
go together. Just out of curiosity, did you switch over to this system because of the time savings?
Or what was the main impetus for your decision to use this as your go-to restorative material?
Yeah. So, you know, when you try something like this, it's like, okay, well. Would I consider
switching to a three second cure system like this if I hated the way the material handled?
Obviously not, because then I don't know as if I'd save all that much time. I'd spend more time
trying to shape the composite than I would saving the curing time. So it's got to be kind of all of
it together. I like the way it looks. The Tetric Power Fill and Tetric Power Flow tend to opacify
very well. So both materials in the beginning used to be pretty translucent. So if you had any
darkness underneath that, the restorations would look gray when you were done. And these will
pacify pretty well. So they look really good. The second thing is, is I do like the way it handles.
It handles well. It's nice and creamy. It's not hard and waxy. And so it just handles well to my
taste. And so I'm able to shape efficiently and then add that on top of the curing efficiency.
And it's one of my routine go-to systems. I usually keep a few different composite systems in my
office for different indications. And this is one that would oftentimes be one that I would pick
up. So when it comes to direct restorative composite, many dentists use PACE systems. They also use
flowable systems. At this point in time, do we need both in our practice? Yeah. You know, I think
back to dental school, and I remember my dental school operative professor, my junior year of
dental school, his name was Dave Overton. He's since passed away, but he was a tremendous educator.
And this was back in like 2002. And so flowable composites had just kind of hit the market back
then, and they were just crummy. They had high shrinkage. They had very low filler rate. They just
weren't very strong and very good. And so he used to admonish us for wanting to use flowable
anywhere. But God, these materials have changed so much since then. They're so much nicer. They
have so much more filler. They're much stronger than they used to be. They have much less
shrinkage. The original flowable composites used to shrink on 8%.
Now these are shrinking at 1.6%. It's just totally changed. So I really like having flowable.
and a paste together that can be used together, sometimes even within the same increment.
So there are times that I need a flowable, right? Tiny little restoration, tiny little pit, hard to
get paste into that. Sometimes it's way easier to get a flowable in there, right? Sometimes I need
a liner that's a flowable, right? You're an endodontist, so I think you oftentimes encounter that
around the floor of a chamber, you know, trying to get paste down in there just doesn't work very
well. You really need a flowable to get in all those nooks and crannies. And in class twos, I
really like to put a little dot of the flowable. I mean, just a small dot of a very small
increment. And instead of curing right then, I go right to the paste. And so I use the flowable and
the paste together in the same increment to make sure that we don't get any voids and that we fill
everything. And oftentimes, a hydraulic pressure of the paste will push the flowable out of the
preparation. And that's totally fine. If I waste that flowable, if I push it out and it ends up on
my two by two on the scrap heap when we're done, I don't mind that. But anywhere where there's
flowable left, it's probably a little area I would have had a void before. So using the two
together, they're designed to be used together. They can even be cured together in the same
increment. That's why I like having that flexibility. There's times where I use just flowable,
times I just use just paste, and there's time when I use both of them together. And so having a
flowable and a paste together really gives me that opportunity. to really take care of any
indication that comes up. And that's what I like. It's really all about efficiency. It's a
combination of a lot of things. Faster curing, bulk film materials, sectional matrices.
The whole system works together. And the idea is to obviously cut chairside time, get the patient
out sooner, because as you mentioned earlier in this podcast, no patient wants to sit in a dental
chair longer than they have to. And it's just a matter of building more efficiencies into our
everyday practice. Absolutely. I just think back to like when, when, you know, I don't know, 10
years, 12 years ago, how we would schedule patients for like a couple of class two composites,
you know, be an hour at 40, 50. minutes to an hour in my in my practice and i'd be fighting toffle
myers and placing all these increments trying to make sure i got a contact and now with the bulk
fill systems that are are optimized and give me options like the tetra power fill and tetra power
flow three second power cure system uh using segmental or sexual matrices um you know it's just
really taken that time that now we schedule two class two composites for like 25 minutes 20 minutes
so it's really cut off like half the time of that we get much more reliable contacts because the
sexual matrices we get much better contours because of sexual matrices and when i can do these all
in in one increment or or two at the most just makes these way easier we end up being able to shape
the increments better so we adjusting the occlusions easier just everything's gotten way easier
than it used to be And it's thanks to a lot of these manufacturers for making products that are
based on problems that we have in our practice. I think all of us can identify with just the
headache sometimes of direct restorative industry. It's hard. It's not easy. And so I'm glad that
we have companies that are working to make our lives easier because there's a lot of other things
in our lives that make it hard. All right, Dr. Austin. Pleasure to have you on the show. Thank you
very much. We know how busy you are. Thanks for your time and look forward to having you on future
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