Dr. Lori Trost maintains a full time practice in Columbia, IL that focuses on esthetic dentistry with a wellness approach to patient care.
She lectures extensively throughout North America, is a clinical evaluator for many dental manufacturers, and uses this opportunity to translate her knowledge and experience into authoring a wide variety of professional articles. On a daily basis she values her team members contribution to patient treatment success and continued professional passion.
Dr. Trost is a member of the ADA, ASDA, and AGD; a board member of the AACO; and, has been honored as a Shils Foundation Award Recipient from the ADA for Entrepreneurial Spirit and Leadership. Most recently, Lori was named as one of the "Top 25 Women in Dentistry" by Dental Products Report for 2013.
Her vision and approach to everyday clinical dentistry is informational, motivational, and refreshing.
Dental podcast: Welcome to DentalTalk. I'm Dr. Phil Klein. Direct composites are the bread and butter of every dental practice. At times, these procedures can be frustrating, time-consuming, and in some cases, create a less then desirable result. Today, we'll learn some tricks of the trade to keep us on track so that our direct restorative procedures produce predictable and consistent clinical success and high patient satisfaction. Our guest is Dr. Lori Trost, who maintains a full time practice in Redbud IL. Dr. Trost focuses on esthetic dentistry with a wellness approach to patient care. She lectures extensively throughout North America, is a clinical evaluator for many dental manufacturers, and translates her knowledge and experience into authoring a wide variety of professional articles as well as CE webinars and podcasts on VivaLearning.com.
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You're listening to the Dr. Phil Klein Dental Podcast from Viva Learning.com.
Welcome to the show. I'm Dr. Phil Klein. Direct composites are the bread and butter of every
dental practice. At times, these procedures can be frustrating, time-consuming, and in some cases,
create a less desirable result. Today, we'll learn some tricks of the trade to keep us on track so
that our direct restorative procedures produce predictable and consistent clinical success and high
patient satisfaction. Our guest is Dr. Lori Trost, who maintains a full-time private practice in
Redbud, Illinois. Dr. Trost focuses on aesthetic dentistry with a wellness approach to patient
care. She lectures extensively throughout North America, is a clinical evaluator for many dental
manufacturers, and translates her knowledge and experience into authoring a wide variety of
professional articles, as well as CE webinars and podcasts on vivalearning.com.
To begin, I would like to thank our sponsor, Colteen. Colteen is a global company in the
development, manufacture, and sale of consumables and small-size equipment for dental treatment
applications. When it comes to composites, they offer an exceptional material called Brilliant
Everglow, which delivers highly aesthetic and long-lasting restorations that can be achieved
effortlessly. So thank you, Colteen, for supporting this podcast. Dr. Trost, it's a pleasure to
have you on Dental Talk. Thank you very much, Dr. Klein. I appreciate that. Yeah. And I want to
congratulate you before we get started on an excellent Viva Learning webinar and really, really
good. I listened to it earlier today. You gave it on Monday, which was a week before Christmas, and
you had an incredible turnout, which is just really impressive considering December 20th.
Most speakers don't want to do a webinar that close to Christmas, but yours did very well. I knew
it would. For those of you who missed it, you can watch the recorded version on VivaLearning.com.
Simply type in the search bar TROST, T-R-O-S-T. The title of the webinar is Achieving
Predictable Clinical Outcomes with Your Composites. And I got to tell you, Dr. Trost covers so many
things in that webinar. So if you're looking to get a review or learn the latest on composite
dentistry, there's so many aspects of that topic that's covered in those webinars. It's really
quite impressive. So thank you very much. So let's begin with a simple question. How does a
clinician choose a composite? That's a great question. That's a question that I get asked often.
That's a question that I ask myself because I want to have, first of all, a composite that can be
durable, but it needs to really, to be able to be durable, it's got to be able to handle correctly.
And I have to be able to place it first. If you can't place a good composite correctly, work with
it. It's not sticky. It can stay placed. It doesn't slump. Those are all critical factors,
I think, in handling. And I think most dentists, I mean, there's a lot of good surveys that are out
there that support the factor that handling is a number one issue. So we've got to be able to work
with the material in our hands. It's got to be able to stay placed, whether it's anterior or
posterior, whether, I mean, there's difficult access. I did yesterday a lingual on number two. I
mean, it's one of the hardest teeth to work on, right? But yet I can get access into it. The
material could flow, work, stay put, and manage and cure correctly. Handling,
I think, is the number one issue. So that's where you got to start with. And then I think from
there, you need to navigate into the realm of universal composites. So those are composites that
can be either used anteriorly or posteriorly. So when you talk about composites that handle well,
that also helps the clinician with less inventory as far as instrumentation, right? So they don't
need as many instruments to manipulate the composite into place. Are you finding that in your
practice? Absolutely. So, you know, when I first started placing composites, I had anywhere between
five and maybe seven instruments to do that placement. And we were still in that realm of maybe
using a packable type material. We didn't necessarily have materials that were able to be sculpted.
You had to really kind of guide them in certain formats and placement issues. But the beautiful
thing is now we have materials that we can rely on, first of all, that are universal. So they go
into your posterior. They have wonderful like sub micron particles. So now the colorations,
the mechanical properties, the compressive and the flexural strengths are really amazing.
But now we're offering flowables married with the partner of the traditional placement resin.
and that's a really great win now because those again mechanical properties they measure out so
therefore it really reflects on how many instruments you use so i have two instruments that i use
to place every composite i don't need any more than that i can get great results with two
instruments so that cuts down It really creates a more efficient procedure, right? And it cuts down
on infection control, on your turnaround, on your cassettes, on your setups, everything.
And your assistants really can function and perform a lot easier because they have less, you know,
instruments to work and process. And more importantly, you keep your setups just minimized. And
it's really, I think, a much simpler and easier format to use that. Yeah, now you do a lot of
restorative dentistry in your practice. Are you finding that these single shade or dual shade
systems, are adequate to meet the patient satisfaction for those that are pretty discerning about
aesthetic dentistry. How has that helped your practice? I do a lot of composite dentistry.
I think it's one of the most conservative procedures we can still use and really great, you know,
get great results. What I'm excited about is because of the mechanical properties of these sub
micron particles we're placing and we're putting more filler load into that,
you know, chemistries. We can go now into load-bearing areas. We can go into incisal edges,
occlusal tables more confidently and don't have chipping or fractures. The improvements now with
these color shadings, because they're duo shades, they are marvelous. I mean, when you consider and
take an A1 or B1 and it can chameleon into that space. that's a beautiful thing so we're minimizing
shading so we don't have the beta shade guide we used to have right um it seemed like even with me
to shade guide you still needed even more than that initially but now We have such beautiful, just
the optical qualities of these materials are excellent. And then, of course, their flowable
versions are excellent as well, too. So you really can move into a greater, I think,
realm with the minimized shading. Plus, now, you know, companies like Colteen, they're coming out
with, you know, this brilliant Everglow. It's amazing in the fact that you have translucent shades
now. You have... uh different bleach shades you have now also opaquer so you've got an ability to
mask out many of us are removing older you know amalgams and they have the amalgam tattoo so you've
got it when you're removing that often you know you had how did you block that out beforehand
unless you put an intentional liner in that so now you can use the opaquer and you can again bond
that completely from that substructure all the way up to the occlusal table you get a great result
so i think again when you're choosing composites look at handling look at do shades, but more
importantly, look at all of these different companies that are putting the opaquers and the
translucents out and the bleach whites that are really true to color. So you're kind of a fan of
using a system where you have the materials in that system compatible.
You know they're compatible because they're manufactured by the company and they're made to be
compatible, and you like to stay within that. You don't want to use one flowable from one company
and then use the composite on top from another company. So when you do your class twos, you
mentioned Brilliant Everglow by Colteen. Does that have a flowable that you would use in the box of
a class two and then finish off with the composite? Yes, it does. It has Brilliant Everglow flow.
And that again, see beforehand, we were nervous about placing any kind of flowables in a genital
box in a class two because two reasons. One, it didn't have the mechanical compressive strength.
that it offered second i mean we were doing it for adaptation which is right in theory but the
problem with that is it wasn't always radio opaque so now not only is it strong with the
compressive strength value you've got the adaptation these companies are offering a product now a
flowable that is it's radio opaque so you're certain that you have no secondary carries in there
complete coverage, et cetera. So I think with confidence now we can marry both of these flowables.
And I see this just as being a really great win because now you have a predictable system. I think
it's very important to stay within the silo, the vertical silo of that manufacturer, because I
think the components are definitely compatible. They work together well. And I think when you start
to crisscross and mismatch materials, you just don't necessarily know what chemistries are linking
there, especially with polymer chemistries. Yeah, and having that radio opacity is really a
confidence builder for the clinician when they're trying to do a diagnosis on a new patient that
comes in the office that has a whole slew of composite restoratives in their mouth, and you don't
know whether it's recurrent decay in that box, which is the most prevalent place for it to be, or
is it a flowable that just wasn't radio opaque. So now using these newer materials, which you have
been talking about in your webinars and other lectures that you give, Dr. Trost, it's important to
have that radio opacity in that flowable. and also the fact that it has that additional strength is
huge like you said it takes off the table that fear that we wouldn't have the compressor strength
in that box area although we do get the adaptation so what are some of the current trends that
you're seeing in the way of placing these composites for a while we were kind of navigating into
the realm where we were taking bulk fills and because the factor that we weren't necessarily not uh
having uh complete coverage or adaptation we were taking a flowable and and many of these bulk
fills were initially put more into a liquid format that you could flow into a cavity preparation
into a gingival box etc and really allow that to adapt and many of them were placed initially like
in a four millimeter increment and then light carried well the problem with some of those are the
factor you just don't necessarily know how much you are putting into that space. And not all of us
are measuring with peri-probes. You know, if they say four millimeters, sometimes it's violated,
sometimes it's five or six. I'm guilty of that too. I mean, I try to do the best, you know, the
best I can. But I think that methodology has taken kind of a little bit of a turn. And I think
we're still going now, we're returning to that idea now that the flowables are really, you know,
performing much better because of the compressive strength and the radio opacity. i think we're now
placing that adaptive flowing layer initially and then we're placing on top of that and it gives i
think clinicians the option that if you want to do that more that packing type of motion that you
like that placement packing initially with that material that works beautifully now you have a
better measurement value that you think you can visually or you can measure itself however you want
to do that when you're placing but i think it gives you a little more confidence a little more
predictability that you're getting a the proper depth placed and more importantly you can cure that
then so that's all what you know if you're if you're violating the placement rules of how many
millimeters then you're not going to cure it and that's going to leave the post-operative
sensitivity recurrent decay you name it all Yeah, and you mentioned in your webinar on Monday,
which our audience can access on VivaLearning.com, the ADA did a survey back in 2002,
I think, that almost 40% of composite restoratives were not fully cured in the box on class twos,
which is a huge problem for post-operative sensitivity and for just plain failure due to the
composite falling apart. under stress and then you're going to get recurrent decay. So that's a big
thing. A couple more questions before we wrap up the podcast, Dr. Trost. One is on the labeling of
universal composites. Are we at the stage in dentistry now where a dentist can use one type of
universal composite for anterior and posterior teeth, get the aesthetic results they're looking for
in the anterior and get all the benefits of what they need in the posterior? I think we absolutely
are. I think it's a very exciting place to be. We can confidently say we have mechanical properties
to perform, obviously, anterior. And as far as the occlusal stresses, that's one answer.
But then we look at those incisal areas and that load bearing. I think we can match that now,
which I think is just an amazing feature to have. I think what excites me the most is just the
colorations are absolutely stunning, beautiful. And you can get like a liquid glass finish on some
of these now. And we all know that the smoother that resin is once it's placed and polished,
it's going to wear much better. And these just blend so nicely. You really don't see the margins on
these anymore if they're placed correctly. I just think it opens up so much more opportunity for
us. And as dentists, it minimizes our inventory. You know, we can keep things really sized down
correctly where we need it. And in times when you're mindful of what you have and what you're
spending, I think it's a wise choice. So undoubtedly, our goals as clinicians are to achieve the
highest level of predictability in the work that we do. So having said that, how can we make
composite placement even more predictable? What are some of the tricks you could tell us if you
just talk to a dental student who just came out of dental school or even a dentist who's been
practicing five years or so that's not completely ingrained in their own habits? What could they do
to improve the predictability of their composite placement?
First and foremost, use quality materials. Use materials that you know are from a good manufacturer
and they're researched. They have good studies behind them that prove their performance.
Secondly, I think... When you go to prep any tooth, I think you need to use your burrs as a
measuring tool. And now we have great burrs across the board that can allow us to know exactly
dimensionally what we're doing, how we're doing it. And that's really important. Work with a good
handpiece that all reflects that. And it starts with that artistry. I think that you,
for predictability reasons, need to have one and done burrs because then infection control is not
an issue. I think carrying on for the predictability, you want to make sure that once you're
prepped, you go ahead and you, for lack of better terms, disinfect that preparation.
But I'm a real big believer in using some kind of cavity scrubbing agent solution.
There's a lot of varieties that are out there in the market. You can go simply with 2%
chlorhexidine. You can go to Consepsis. You can do a lot of great just cleansers. I think to get
the tooth debris, any bacteria that's in there, around there, near there, just get that cavity
preparation clean. Isolation is huge along with that too.
I think keeping the tooth moist, that is a huge factor, and I've learned that over time. We don't
want to desiccate anything now. And I think all of the universal bonding agents have really
developed in chemistries that they marry very well now with more of a moist surface.
Not a wet surface, but a moist surface. There's a little difference there. And that's critical for
the success of no postoperative sensitivity down the road. And then place the composite like you're
supposed to. Do the proper light curing. Don't shortcut. I mean, It seems like it's a very tedious
procedure sometimes, and 20 seconds can seem like two years sometimes. Don't violate the time.
You've got to pay attention to the time and really just properly do everything and follow just the
protocols of what the manufacturers recommend, and I think that is going to really lend and yield a
great result. Yeah, great advice, invaluable advice. Thank you so much, and you have years of
experience, Dr. Trost, in teaching to back that up. um and keep writing those great articles we
really appreciate reading them and keep doing these podcasts and webinars you've been a great
contributor to viva learning and if i'm speaking to the audience now if you want some more
information on some of the materials that were mentioned. I know Dr. Trost likes Coltene's
brilliant Everglow. You can look that up online. You can Google Coltene and just look under their
direct restorative materials. You'll find brilliant Everglow and then their flow material as well
if you want to learn more about it. Thank you very much and have a very happy holiday and a safe
one. Very good. Thank you.