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Dr. Ali Allen Nasseh is the founder of MicroSurgical Endodontics (MSEndo), and a practicing endodontist in Boston, MA. He is an active member of several organizations including, but not limited to the American Dental Association (ADA), the American Association of Endodontists (AAE), the Massachusetts Dental Society (MDS), Massachusetts Association of Endodontists (MAE), and the Boston Metropolitan Dental Society (BMDS).
Dr. Nasseh has been an active faculty and a clinical instructor at the Department of Restorative Dentistry and Biomaterial Sciences / Postdoctoral Endodontic division of Harvard School of Dental Medicine since 1994. He was also an Assistant Professor in the postdoctoral clinic, department of Endodontics at Tufts School of Dental Medicine until 2006.
Dr. Nasseh is a national and international speaker and lectures actively in such areas as surgical and non-surgical root canal therapy, technological advances in endodontics/dentistry, and principals of patient care and anesthesia for a painless dental experience. Dr. Nasseh's practice philosophy is providing the most gentle, caring, and positive root canal experience by offering the highest quality of care using the latest technological advances in the dental field. He believes that root canal therapy should never be a painful experience and lectures extensively on the patients' right to a gentle, comfortable, and completely painless experience.
Are you balancing optimal root canal outcomes against preserving tooth structure? This fundamental tension drives one of endodontics' most debated topics.
Dr. Ali Allen Nasseh brings over 25 years of clinical excellence and teaching expertise to this discussion. As founder of MicroSurgical Endodontics in Boston and senior faculty at Harvard School of Dental Medicine since 1994, Dr. Nasseh combines extensive academic credentials with real-world clinical insights. He previously served as Assistant Professor at Tufts School of Dental Medicine and maintains active membership in the American Association of Endodontists, American Dental Association, and multiple state dental societies.
This episode explores the critical balance between conservative tooth preparation and achieving predictable endodontic success. Dr. Nasseh challenges the minimally invasive movement while advocating for evidence-based decision making that prioritizes long-term outcomes over social media appeal. The conversation reveals how proper access preparation extends beyond initial cavity outline to encompass complete canal location, straight-line access to mid-root level, and strategic dentin removal.
Episode Highlights:
Access preparation is a multi-phase process that continues until straight-line access to the mid-root portion of each canal is achieved, requiring three-dimensional alignment of instruments without coronal restrictions. The process involves pulp horn location, chamber unroofing, orifice identification, and strategic removal of restrictive dentin around the CEJ area.
CBCT imaging provides definitive canal identification and eliminates guesswork based on probability charts, though image quality depends on proper acquisition technique and patient cooperation during scanning. High-quality CBCT allows preoperative visualization of restrictive areas and potential procedural hazards.
The minimally invasive movement creates procedural risks when taken to extremes, as under-instrumentation consistently leaves bacteria behind and increases instrument separation rates. Saving minimal dentin amounts should not compromise the fundamental goal of complete infection removal and predictable instrumentation.
Curved roots, particularly mesial roots in molars, may require additional tooth structure removal to prevent ledging and instrument breakage during canal negotiation. This calculated trade-off prioritizes procedural safety and apical patency over absolute tissue conservation.
CBCT technology shows only marginal improvement over conventional radiography for vertical root fracture detection, with studies indicating approximately 15% higher detection rates. Reliable fracture visualization requires maximum resolution and optimal image acquisition without patient movement artifacts.
Perfect for: General dentists performing endodontic procedures, endodontic residents learning access principles, and specialists seeking evidence-based perspectives on the conservative versus traditional access debate.
Discover why successful endodontics requires balancing tissue preservation with clinical predictability in this essential discussion.
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You're listening to the Phil Klein Dental Podcast.
We all know that every non-surgical root canal case begins with endodontic access, and that's what
we will be covering in today's podcast. We'll also be addressing the two trains of thought when it
comes to opening up the tooth. On one side, the belief is that the priority is to be minimally
invasive, meaning minimal removal of tooth structure at all costs when preparing your endodontic
access prep. The opposing argument prioritizes straight line access to at least the midpoint of all
the roots in the tooth, which means if we have to remove additional tooth structure to achieve
this, so be it. So let's begin our discussion with our guest, Dr. Ali Nasseh, and see what he has
to say. Dr. Nasseh is a world-respected endodontist who currently lives and practices endo in
Boston, Massachusetts. He is a senior faculty member at the Harvard School of Dental Medicine, and
he has an excellent YouTube channel, by the way, on endo. at youtube.com slash at AANASE,
N-A-S-S-E-H. So check that out. Dr. Nasseh will be joining us in a second. But first,
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Dr. Nasseh, thanks for joining us today. Thanks for having me again. Yes, we really enjoyed your
previous podcast. Thank you so much for being a really high-end contributor to Viva Learning with
your knowledge of endodontics. So access, that's the first part of endodontics. So we all have to
make access to the tooth in order to do this procedure. So what are some of the objectives when
making endodontic access in terms of the shape, in terms of the configuration of the so-called...
modern endodontic access preparation? Well, I mean, let's think first in terms of what is the
objective of an access preparation before we talk about its shape and so on. The main objective of
all access preparation is to facilitate finding all of the canals and all of the spaces inside the
root canal, and then to also facilitate instrumentation and obturation of those spaces that you've
found. So access is not just merely drawing an outline on top of the tooth to find the pulp horns
and unroof the pulp chamber, but it is actually a bigger process, it's far more entailed,
and in my opinion, it doesn't actually end the process of access preparation until you've...
straight line access to the mid-root portion of each tooth. It's a process that's intricate in the
sense that it should three-dimensionally align you with that midpoint of each root so that each
instrument that you put in the canal can go straight down without any restrictions coronally and
reach that space. So what's your response, Dr. Nasseh, to those that say, well, yes, you may be
getting straight line access to the midpoint of the root, but you're removing tooth structure
that's valuable to the tooth. And long term, the tooth's going to fail because you're weakening it
too much. Of course, you know, it is also a balance between how much tissue or how much,
you know, unnecessary and sound dentin and enamel you have to remove in order to achieve that.
But ultimately, since the main goal of endodontic therapy is to provide a sound foundation for the
restoration of the tooth following with canal therapy. The goal of access is try to find that right
balance in which you can improve your odds of reaching the apex in all routes,
find all routes, get access to all routes, reduce your odds of procedural accidents that can happen
with too restricted of an access preparation, such as ledging and breakage of instruments. And yet
at the same time, not remove unnecessary dentin. Because you could make the argument that, look, I
could have a really easy access if I could just completely hollow out the tooth from top and find
every canal and get in there. But then what do you have left to restore the tooth? So talk to us
about the different phases of access. What does endodontic access entail from start to finish?
It's not just opening up the tooth and you're done with access and you move forward with
instrumentation. It obviously all works together. So tell us what that means clinically. The
initial part of instrumentation is even part of your access preparation, you know, the very early
part of it. So access preparation entails, you know, different phases, getting access to the pulp
horns and then unroofing the pulp channel and then finding all of the orifices. Then you're going
to need to kind of make sure that you are providing the kind of access that removes some of that
strangulation of the dentin around the CEJ that creates this triangle of dentin inside.
tooth that could be restrictive in terms of putting your instruments in there and go straight line
to the mid root of the tooth so that portion has to be removed that should be removed that involves
the use of some diamond bars and some ultrasonics and then some orifice opener files and that So
all of that will involve part of the access preparation until you are now able to put a file
straight that could go into the midroot of the tooth. And now you'll have a chance to be able to
get around any of these apical. curvatures that are oftentimes present in teeth.
Furthermore, the other thing that has to happen during access preparation is you have to remove all
of the potential free calcifications that are upcoronally into the pulp. And if you don't do that,
any of those calcifications fall into the tooth and that can block you. Axis preparation is an
intricate procedure. It requires you understanding the anatomy of the tooth, the anatomy of the
pulp, some of the areas where you have to be careful in terms of any concavities on the tooth
itself, what is the rotation of the tooth, angulation, tilting,
all of this stuff. As you look at the radiograph and you create this three-dimensional image in
your mind that you then implement clinically. And you can, at that point,
you can maximize your odds of finding these canals without any procedural accidents, such as
perforations, leging, and other kinds of issues that could happen. So putting it in simple terms,
when you have a case like a molar with a very curved mesial root, for instance, it may very well
require to remove more tooth structure than you would otherwise remove in a case where you had that
same molar with fairly straight roots. And it's a trade-off. You lose some of that sound to
structure, but you can't expect to have a successful root canal outcome without navigating that
route thoroughly. And to do so, you need satisfactory access. Exactly. I mean, like anything else
in life, this is a trade-off too. You don't want to have to remove any extra dentin that you don't
have to. But there are times where you need to do that because the risk of you breaking a file and
ledging are greater if you try to be too restrictive and too conservative by trying to save a tiny
half a millimeter of dentin. And now you've broken a file around the curve and you haven't served
anyone by saving a little bit of dentin. So you can't be penny wise and pound foolish. You've got
to look at the big picture of things. Your ultimate goal is to make sure that the apex is clean,
you've reached the apex, and you've had a safe way of doing it. But again, it goes back to
balancing these needs. And today, with, again, three-dimensional imaging and so on,
we're capable of knowing in advance where these restrictive areas are. So instead of just...
to use stock ideas that we've had in the past about how access preparation should be made and how
much dentin you should remove here and there and so on and so forth, you can have a picture of what
you're dealing with ahead of time by using your radiography and nowadays with the three
-dimensional imaging, have a better sense of where the bottlenecks are, where the hazards are,
where you should be careful and where you should actually sacrifice a little bit more dentin, where
you don't have to. And these decisions can all be done in advance by... doing pre-planning and
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So my next question, Dr. Nasseh, is probably one that you've heard many times. How do we know as
clinicians with a high level of confidence that we've located all the canals and there are no
mystery canals hidden out there? All of us have a sense of how many canals are in each tooth based
on probability charts, based on studies, histological studies that have been done by a number of
different authors in different populations. So you know what are the odds of a certain number of
canals in each specific tooth that actually can vary based on different populations and so on and
ethnicities. But you have a sense of what you should be looking for.
Each tooth should be started by a bite wing radiograph, a straight shot, and an angled shot. And
that will give you a sense of the width of the tooth you're talking about. The wider the tooth, the
higher the chance that there might be an additional root in there or something like that. So you
can sound with your explorer the tooth also clinically. But ultimately, I think at the present
time, a gold standard of something like that would be having a preoperative CBCT that will give you
a much better axial section, which is just... across the tooth three-dimensionally and we'll be
able to then know in advance how many canals actually are in the tooth and that's the best way
because this way there's no guessing and going back to probability charts to see what are the
possible places, you will know with a much greater level of probability what's happening. Of
course, that's another thing with the CBCT. It has to be a quality CBCT that's been acquired at a
very high level of accuracy without patient moving and things like that.
So you can have a much... more, we can have a sharper image that could be better diagnostic.
So just the CBCT in itself is not enough. It has to be a good quality CBCT. And Jay Marita makes a
very good one. Exactly. Yeah, a number of companies make great CBCTs nowadays. More important is
the image interpretation software, and those softwares are very important in terms of extracting
more from the raw information that the device will give them. But more importantly, there's image
acquisition, there is the image interpretation, and then... The image processing that's done by the
software and then the image interpretation that's done by you that require, you know, you need to
have a good sense of your dental anatomy and your basic jaw anatomy and radiology at the same time.
Do you think, in your opinion, if someone's an endodontist, should they have CBCT at this point in
the game? Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, I think if you're an endodontist, it's just a no-brainer.
You'll have to have a CBCT. The question is, if you're a general dentist, should you have one? Then
the answer is, like, if you're going to do enough implants and if you do enough endo, then for sure
it would really be helpful. But if you're just doing anterior teeth, basic cases, and you're not
doing any implants, I think, you know, it's not necessary, but it would certainly be great because
you'll be able to catch the exceptions. If you're doing a lower anterior tooth, you know, where
about 20%, 30% of those may have two canals. then you'll know ahead of time if that lower anterior
tooth is going to have two canals or not. So here's a common question that if I get a CBCT, will I
be able to see vertical root fractures? Is that truth or is that more of a myth? It's not a myth,
but it is exaggerated. It is a sales pitch for the most part. No,
you are not able to see vertical root fractures predictably enough. Based on some studies that I've
seen, you may be able to see vertical root fractures at about 15% higher incidence than
conventional radiography, but still not 100%. Sometimes you could infer potential root fractures
based on a specific pattern of bone loss on the axial section. but still seeing it is still a
function of the resolution. And again, the quality of the image, it all goes back into acquisition.
If you're having your, the person who's taking it is not able to communicate with the patient,
the importance of staying still during the time that this scan is going around their head and
there's movement, you're going to have blurriness and then you lose resolution and then you end up,
you know, this finer detail such as a crack or a fracture will require maximum resolution. So there
are some, that believe that the main concern when it comes to endodontic access is to be super
conservative with tooth structure. In other words, focus on being minimally invasive when preparing
our access preparation. What are your thoughts on that? And you did cover it. You know, there's a
happy medium. There's a happy medium here. But what are your thoughts about those that literally
have you change the way you do instrumentation in order to focus on the main priority of conserving
tooth structure in that access prep? Well, I mean, in today's world, everybody's selling something.
Sometimes people are selling themselves and their ideas. And I find that, you know, the minimally
invasive movement has really been one of those pendulum swings that have really gone way overboard.
And in fact, they take exception to the term minimally invasive because it assumes that the rest of
us mortals out here are maximally invasive. Right. We're all hacks. Yeah, we're all hacks. Yeah,
exactly. Like holistic dentists. Like everybody else is a carpenter and we're just holistic
dentists. You know, so it's... That's the same thing. Everybody's trying to be minimally invasive.
The question here is what is minimal enough? What are the risks we're taking by removing more or
removing less? Because there are risks on both sides. And if you don't understand the risks of
removing less, then you are basically not understanding the problem you're trying to solve.
And so it comes down to a question of, in my opinion,
obviously you want to try as little as possible. where the risk of procedural errors and the risks
of unfavorable events are not going to supersede your instrumentation.
Now, the other problem I see nowadays is this under-instrumentation that has been shown with these
minimally invasive preparations are always leaving bacteria behind. And what I'm hearing from
people is that, well, the problem is the model that we're using, endo models have to change and so
on. And I'm like, well, I mean, I think the model of removing the infection. should still remain as
our main preponderant thing. As every study has shown that you need to have a large enough
preparation, in fact, to get adequate irrigation down to the end of the road. And these people
then, it seems like, is a coalition of these ideas with industry. And people are saying,
well, of course, you don't have to worry about it. All you have to do is to buy this $100,000
machine and irrigate with it, and then you don't have to have a lot. And I'm like, well, wait a
minute. The burden of proof is on you first to say that what you're telling me is actually going to
really help improve the outcome of this tooth. By trying to save a half a millimeter of dentin,
you have to show me that it's actually going to help because otherwise I'm now getting all this
additional expensive stuff without any evidence that it's in fact going to help improve the outcome
of the case in the long run. And without that, we're just basically being fools, listening to
people that are just promoting more difficult cases. It's like, you know what it is,
the modern equivalent of that in pharmaceuticals is? It's like, I give you a pill. that creates a
side effect, and I'll sell you another pill for the side effect. Right. Yeah, exactly. Give me a
break. Yeah. No, no, that's a very good point because, like you said, there are reasons that we
don't know when these new ideas come out. And like you said, it could be a particular doctor who's
trying to self-promote and start a new movement and get some following and whatever,
however he wants to use that. Maybe he wants to start his own podcast program. Who knows? But...
Phil, Phil, a lot of this stuff, Phil, is just the... effect of the age of instagram where you can
post pictures and you know and get likes and everyone's like oh my god how's this right how's that
possible right how did you do that yeah yeah you know you you get a biased sample you get the cases
that work they're not going to show you the cases in which the guy alleged broke instruments caused
all kinds of problems Right. You're only going to see those cases in which everything worked out
perfectly. And so you start by buy a sample and that creates a certain expectation. People go out,
they try and they hurt people. They make mistakes on these people. To me, you always have to aim
for that type of procedure that will provide the simplest and probably the least expensive and the
most efficient and the most predictable outcome. in the long run, for any given patient.
And that's what we should be aiming for. Yeah. And the operator has to understand the principles of
endodontics, and they have to be able to abide by them and understand what it means to irrigate and
remove everything in the canal that needs to be removed. And you could have all the gadgets in the
world, but if you don't know the principles and you don't have the diagnostic skills, your clinical
outcomes aren't going to be good anyway. That's not going to help you get through it. So the
question is, how much better Or what is the benefit? What is the return on investment on something
where you have to spend $100,000 and therefore you could obviate the need for opening up the tooth
two more millimeters? I don't know. We'll find out as the research comes out. Exactly.
Thank you very much, Dr. Nasseh. I appreciate it. That was a good overview on endodontic access. And
we'll look forward to having you on future podcasts. Thank you so much. Thank you. If you're
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